Let’s Play “Six Degrees of Stallone”

Connecting the Classic TV Dots In the Ring with a Round of “Retro-‘Rocky’”

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What do you say we play around with — and a round of — Six Degrees From Sylvester Stallone’s Rocky Feature Film Franchise — with a slant toward classic television?

First up, three classic television stars, in particular, owe a great deal to the success of the Rocky movies which began 1976 with Rocky.

  • Burgess Meredith played Mickey Goldmill in the initial Rocky flick. Mickey was the unstoppable trainer for Stallone’s Robert Rocky Balboa, a bantamweight champ and owner of a local boxing gym. Before his Rocky’s debut, Meredith was best been known as The Penguin on ABC’s 1960s cult hit, Batman, and a classic TV segment of The Twilight Zone.

Beyond these three direct classic TV-tie-ins, other retro links to Rocky are just as undeniable.

A Blonde “Italian Stallion”?

The producers of the first Rocky movie were unfamiliar with the work of Sylvester Stallone when the Italian Stallion introduced himself and his screenplay. To better acquaint themselves with the actor, someone presented a group photograph of the 1974 feature film, The Lords of Flatbush, in which Stallone starred with a then-equally unknown Henry Winkler, who, only one year later, would find superstardom of his own (or have superstardom find him) by playing Arthur “The Fonz” Fonzerelli on ABC’s mega-sitcom, Happy Days (which, like Flatbush, as it turns out, was also set in the 1950s).

Once the Rocky producers caught a glimpse of the Flatbush photo, they became somewhat enthused, if also somewhat further confused. They wondered why someone named Stallone had blond hair and blue eyes. Besides the fact that there may have been a possible Stallone family migration from Northern Italy (where those with light hair and light eyes run rampant), the producers should have taken a closer look at the caption on the Flatbush photo.

Apparently, they had mistaken actor Perry King, who also appeared in Flatbush (and who went on to star in NBC’s Riptide adventure series — around the same time that Mr. T. was playing B.A. on the Peacock network’s A-Team). Finally, when Rocky producers understood Sly’s true identity, they almost passed on the film altogether. They simply did not want Sly to star in the movie and sought to cast either Ryan O’Neal or James Caan as Rocky.

O’Neal Got In The Ring Later

At the time of the first Rocky, not only was Ryan O’Neal a hot film commodity (it was only about three years after his major movie hit in the guise of Love Story), but he was also then-working on another motion picture set in the world of boxing. But this time, it was a comedy, entitled, The Main Event (in which he co-starred with Barbra Streisand). And it was only a few years after that when O’Neal would make his move on classic TV and Charlie’s Angels star Farrah Fawcett, who was then married to ABC’s Six Million Dollar Man star and Ryan’s then-best friend Lee Majors.

Bottom line: The Rocky producers offered $150,000 to Stallone to have O’Neal take the lead. But Sly still said no dice.

Caan Was No Con — or Stallone

Meanwhile, James Caan, who has gambled his way to TV stardom with optimum performances on everything from the 1971 groundbreaking TV-movie, Brian’s Song to the star of NBC’s Las Vegas, was just as hot as O’Neal during the pre-development of Rocky. Caan’s performance as Sonny in Francis Ford Coppola’s iconic 1972 film, The Godfather, and his take as Brian Piccolo on Song.

Still, Stallone would not budge. He wanted to star in and write Rocky and ‘dat was ‘dat.

Finally, the Rocky producers relented. Stallone got his way, and though no one is too sure if he and O’Neal ever formed an off-screen bond, he and Caan established a friendship that remains intact today (as Caan would make a guest appearance some three decades in 2005 on Stallone’s boxing reality show, The Contender).


Once Sly Stallone was in place as Rocky, the question still remained as to who would have portrayed his on-screen romantic-love-interest. Before Talia Shire won the role of the initially-shy Adrianna Adrian Pennino, Susan Sarandon and Bette Midler — both of whom would later go on to win Oscars — were up for the part.

Sarandon, who was then only best known as the star of another Rocky-titled film, The Rock Horror Picture Show, may have been struggling with an on-screen identity crisis on several levels. Movie-goers and TV-watchers frequently confused her with look-a-like actress Leslie Ann Warren, who starred in the second CBS TV-remake of Rogers and Hammerstein’s Cinderella (and who later played Teri Hatcher’s hot mom on ABC’s Desperate Housewives).

The Midler camp, meanwhile, was pushing to further the red-hot musical-acting career of its main star, fresh-off of taking the lead — and the world by storm — with her performance in The Rose.

And There Ya’ Have It!

So, there you have it. And other than the main casting news, and besides the fact that a pre-Bob Barker/Price Is Right game-show host in the form of Dennis James played the commentator in Rocky III, here are two more little tidbits of Rocky classic TV trivia that may be of interest to some:

  • Rocky III commences where Rocky II leaves off, with Rocky winning the title from Apollo Creed (played by the awesome Carl Weathers). Creed retires, and Rocky becomes an accomplished champion, making ten defenses of his belt over three years. Consequently, he purchases a mansion, and appears on several magazine covers and makes many TV show appearances, including one on The Muppet Show. And the particular montage that was employed was a sequence from Stallone’s actual real-life appearance on the hit variety show on January 9, 1979. For the Rocky re-do, however, Muppet master Jim Henson dubbed in Rocky’s name during an introduction by Kermit the Frog.

“Gotta’ fly now.”

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Herbie J Pilato writes about pop-culture, stays positive, and hosts THEN AGAIN WITH HERBIE J PILATO, a TV talk show on Amazon Prime and Amazon Prime UK.

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